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无为论坛，没有版主，不删贴不封ID，北美中文论坛，加拿大中文论坛，红卫兵rolia，找工作，面试，职场，学英语，股市，炒股,心态，沟通
今儿个先整第一段，明天接着整，欢迎任何评论。 (外语)
It is wrong to "learn" a language just for learning it, we need be able to use it after our learning. We can easily dig into a language and learn a lot in its grammar, vocabulary and phrases, etc. However, it appears that these efforts usually do not pay us back. Why? We learn it by learning and being stuck in its details, which may be necessary for a linguist to know, but, apparently not for us. We need be able to get information from watching TV or reading newspaper, and to communicate with others in the language we learned. My mother-in-law has been “learning” English for years yet she can hardly speak or understand English. On the other hand, a woman who works as a nanny for an English speaking family, can talk to a driver for a ride home in English, though she never attended an English class.
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- The right way to improve English is to use it, not to "learn" it. - super(学霸), 2014-10-07 23:27 (#5)
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- Q: How do I learn to use English ?
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 10:56 (#7103)
- 不 learn，just use
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:23 (#7111)
- If you don't learn how can you use it? Are you a genius?
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:29 (#7112)
- 小孩子学语言有没有 learn？俺文章里写过一个山东大妈，刚来加拿大不久就到洋人家当保姆，而且敢当街拦顺便车，她有没有 learn？
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:36 (#7117)
- Everyone does or you can't speak at all.
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:39 (#7120)
- 她就是没有 learn，你就是固执。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:39 (#7121)
- 看看老李的回答, 自惭形秽吧你@
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:42 (#7125)
- 看看老李的回答, 自惭形秽吧你@
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:42 (#7125)
- 兵哥的英文文章我读过，比你和那谁都强 - winterstorm8(打酱油的), 2014-11-24 11:47 (#7130)
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- 你就好好学着点儿吧, 一口/一水儿老中英文。 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 12:06 (#7137)
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- 桑桑的口音堪称老中典范，哈哈哈 - dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:07 (#7140)
- 要比老中音，还是你技高一筹，外加唐老鸭般的音质，清脆如快板的舌头运动，沾沾自喜不知所谓的“语调”，你的浪嘟实为一“绝”。
- winterstorm8(打酱油的), 2014-11-24 12:18 (#7145)
- 哈哈哈，桑桑读起来，那个舌头搞的塌塌啪啪响，堪称一绝
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:20 (#7147)
- 别臭美了妮哪, 一听妮哪拿腔做覅的烂英文就让人起腻。外加无与伦比的臭美和自明得意, 更是令人作呕。歇菜吧妮哪。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 12:21 (#7148)
- 拿腔做覅是你自己
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:24 (#7150)
- 裳裳本质不坏，就是爱嫉妒。
- winterstorm8(打酱油的), 2014-11-24 12:55 (#7161)
- 裳裳本质不坏，就是爱嫉妒。
- winterstorm8(打酱油的), 2014-11-24 12:55 (#7161)
- 拿腔做覅是你自己
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:24 (#7150)
- 哈哈哈，桑桑读起来，那个舌头搞的塌塌啪啪响，堪称一绝
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:20 (#7147)
- 桑桑的口音堪称老中典范，哈哈哈 - dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:07 (#7140)
- 你就好好学着点儿吧, 一口/一水儿老中英文。 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 12:06 (#7137)
- 她就是没有 learn，你就是固执。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:39 (#7121)
- Everyone does or you can't speak at all.
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:39 (#7120)
- 小孩子学语言有没有 learn？俺文章里写过一个山东大妈，刚来加拿大不久就到洋人家当保姆，而且敢当街拦顺便车，她有没有 learn？
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:36 (#7117)
- Learn 有两种：书本，生活和社会。很多老外不会认不会写中文，但说得很流利：））。看自己的目的了。
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 11:40 (#7122)
- Exactly
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:42 (#7124)
- 老李不错啊
- daydayhappy(幸福的流星), 2014-11-24 12:08 (#7141)
- 谢谢这位朋友。我有时好有时坏：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 12:24 (#7151)
- 谁都有, 不像兵哥和他闺蜜酱油哥, 臭美一万里。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 12:27 (#7153)
- 谁都有, 不像兵哥和他闺蜜酱油哥, 臭美一万里。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 12:27 (#7153)
- 谢谢这位朋友。我有时好有时坏：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 12:24 (#7151)
- Exactly
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:42 (#7124)
- Use what ? Do you know how to use the word "use"? And how did you know it?
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:16 (#7165)
- 他和闺蜜加起来吧, - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:19 (#7166)
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- 我真的觉得他们很自恋（narcissism）。lol
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:22 (#7170)
- To the least I would say......
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:24 (#7173)
- To the least I would say......
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:24 (#7173)
- 我真的觉得他们很自恋（narcissism）。lol
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:22 (#7170)
- you use it and people understand what you want, that's the point
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:21 (#7168)
- Tell me, please, what is there in my brain to use ? espescially when I didn't ever learn anything about English.
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:23 (#7172)
- 你比刺哥还要固执
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:24 (#7174)
- OMG, can you use your brain to think about my questions? Use your brain, man, use it, please! LOL
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:26 (#7175)
- 你脑袋里的知识，任何知识--语言，技术，。。。。是从哪里来的？难道不是后天学习来的？这么一个简单明了的事实，你都敢否认？
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:32 (#7181)
- 他不仅是先知先觉, 而且是一贯正确。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:34 (#7182)
- 刺哥咬文嚼字是装傻，你是真咬文嚼字
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:34 (#7183)
- 主帖里最后一段简直是狂妄至极。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:37 (#7185)
- 兵哥和闺蜜的真实写照吗。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:40 (#7188)
- 兵哥和闺蜜的真实写照吗。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:40 (#7188)
- 主帖里最后一段简直是狂妄至极。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:37 (#7185)
- 他不仅是先知先觉, 而且是一贯正确。
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:34 (#7182)
- OMG, can you use your brain to think about my questions? Use your brain, man, use it, please! LOL
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:26 (#7175)
- 你比刺哥还要固执
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:24 (#7174)
- Dear, you practise your English rather than use it.
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:27 (#7176)
- 论坛唯一该封的id就是你这种胡搅蛮缠的人。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:29 (#7177)
- Do it rather than say it. Keep your promise Mr.RIGHT. Thx
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:31 (#7179)
- 无为说不封人就不封人，但是你这种扰乱视听的人真的该封。你把哈哥都绕进去了。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:36 (#7184)
- 疯吧, 谁敢说你不对你就疯。真的是大道无为啊。还天天湉着脸罵人家水手呢, 好意思吧? - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:39 (#7186)
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- 他说不封，但可以鼓动小喽啰用另外一种方式”封”，不版主封效果还好：））嘿嘿，他每天不遗余力宣传，其实是在指引方向么：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 13:44 (#7190)
- 谁袅那一壶啊? 大不了黑对黑吗 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:47 (#7191)
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- 不行，一定要明着对，白对白。黑吃黑他权力太大，咱吃亏：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 19:07 (#7336)
- 不行，一定要明着对，白对白。黑吃黑他权力太大，咱吃亏：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 19:07 (#7336)
- 谁袅那一壶啊? 大不了黑对黑吗 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:47 (#7191)
- 他说不封，但可以鼓动小喽啰用另外一种方式”封”，不版主封效果还好：））嘿嘿，他每天不遗余力宣传，其实是在指引方向么：））
- 老李(老李), 2014-11-24 13:44 (#7190)
- 疯吧, 谁敢说你不对你就疯。真的是大道无为啊。还天天湉着脸罵人家水手呢, 好意思吧? - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:39 (#7186)
- 无为说不封人就不封人，但是你这种扰乱视听的人真的该封。你把哈哥都绕进去了。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:36 (#7184)
- Do it rather than say it. Keep your promise Mr.RIGHT. Thx
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:31 (#7179)
- 论坛唯一该封的id就是你这种胡搅蛮缠的人。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 13:29 (#7177)
- Tell me, please, what is there in my brain to use ? espescially when I didn't ever learn anything about English.
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:23 (#7172)
- 他和闺蜜加起来吧, - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 13:19 (#7166)
- If you don't learn how can you use it? Are you a genius?
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 11:29 (#7112)
- 不 learn，just use
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 11:23 (#7111)
- 很好嘛。怎么没见你在揉脸写过。这样的文章版主肯定要加精
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:09 (#7142)
- 刚上揉脸时写的。一直在呼吁网友们不要 learn，可惜是对牛弹琴。刺哥这种人的胡搅蛮缠的更是让大家不明真相。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 12:12 (#7143)
- 说得是啊。
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:18 (#7146)
- 行了吧你，词不达意是你的老毛病了，看来是改不了啦，哈哈哈哈。。。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:39 (#7187)
- 俺明白咧，你是要创造一门儿红氏英语啊，不过涅，你得明白，这地球上至少有一个人不认可，那个人就是额。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:58 (#7199)
- 说得是啊。
- dandelion1(蒲公英哥), 2014-11-24 12:18 (#7146)
- 刚上揉脸时写的。一直在呼吁网友们不要 learn，可惜是对牛弹琴。刺哥这种人的胡搅蛮缠的更是让大家不明真相。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 12:12 (#7143)
- Q: what is the left way to improve English ? LOL
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 13:59 (#7201)
- 建议lz的孩子不要上英文课，反正不要学，直接大工还有钱挣
- nice2002(nice), 2014-11-24 14:18 (#7210)
- 就是就是 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 14:23 (#7212)
- 就是就是 - thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 14:23 (#7212)
- 今儿个先整第一段，明天接着整，欢迎任何评论。 - hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 19:03 (#7335)
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- 羊真是用心啊。建议你单开一个帖子，把 before 和 after 放在一起，让大家评论评论。这里的酱油哥和学习姐都是英文大拿。没准还能把埃里克吸引过来，他也是大拿。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 21:34 (#7372)
- 就整到这儿吧，额已经没兴趣廖。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 22:49 (#7388)
- 你的改版让俺想起了呼啦妹妹，她说某某导演的film这种说法是chinglish ：）
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 22:59 (#7396)
- 你在武汉读过书？
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:12 (#7398)
- 你是校友？
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 23:30 (#7403)
- 只是好奇哈，你哪个学校的？
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:31 (#7404)
- 华工武大必有其一
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 23:34 (#7406)
- 俺估计他是武大的。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:36 (#7407)
- 俺估计他是武大的。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:36 (#7407)
- 华工武大必有其一
- thornthorn(($oOHoly MolyOo$)), 2014-11-24 23:34 (#7406)
- 只是好奇哈，你哪个学校的？
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:31 (#7404)
- 你是校友？
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 23:30 (#7403)
- 你在武汉读过书？
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 23:12 (#7398)
- 你的改版让俺想起了呼啦妹妹，她说某某导演的film这种说法是chinglish ：）
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 22:59 (#7396)
- 就整到这儿吧，额已经没兴趣廖。
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 22:49 (#7388)
- 羊真是用心啊。建议你单开一个帖子，把 before 和 after 放在一起，让大家评论评论。这里的酱油哥和学习姐都是英文大拿。没准还能把埃里克吸引过来，他也是大拿。
- super(学霸), 2014-11-24 21:34 (#7372)
- Q: How do I learn to use English ?
- hhyang(?!之WolfInSheepFlock), 2014-11-24 10:56 (#7103)
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